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We went to see The Social Network tonight. At the start of the film, Zuckerberg logs into LJ to blog. My first reaction was to turn to Fox and Sierra and say, "wait, I don't think LJ had that interface yet!" The scene was dated mid-2003, and he was using the blue-and-white interface.

...yes, I'm from the internet.

Anyone happen to know when LJ moved from the old blue-orange-purple-white layout to the blue-and-white one? Did my nerd powers catch a historical inaccuracy, or am I wrong?

On another note, I must offer a bit of native Palo Alto pride that the disposable coffee cup on the law firm table towards the end of the film is from my favorite cafe, Coupa Cafe. It was a nice touch. If you're ever in the area, go there.

I recommend the film, too. As Sierra said, it's rare that we see a movie for which we are so completely in the target market. It's very strange to see a film on the big screen about people who are only a couple of degrees of separation away.

It's no surprise that the film was very well directed. The film was incredibly well cast. The back and forth time shifts between present and past were well executed. The score and use of sound was good too. Story-wise, I suspect it was perhaps a bit generous to Zuckerberg's character, but not enough to make it fail to ring true. On the whole, I suspect a number of things were glossed over, but not to the point of untruth. On the whole, a solid film.

It was really nice to see a piece of my personal cultural history on screen, and I hope it does well at the box office.

Edit: Mystery solved, by Sierra with the Wayback Machine. It seems as though the change was sometime in August or September 2003, making the movie scene accurate.

Date: 2010-10-17 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
I think that it was 2005 when the change was made, because I remember working at Calltech at the time.

I haven't seen it yet- what do you think of the claims that the film treats women very poorly?

the women characters

Date: 2010-10-17 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cthulhia.livejournal.com
are a definite weak point, and are flattened for the sake of drama.

Other than knowing the truth was changed for the sake of drama, it's a great film. Good dialogue, good performances, and - obligatory trent reference - good soundtrack (if much of it was at best very slightly changed from Ghosts).

When one of the characters was eating red vines, I was able to break into the package of red vines I filched from the FB HQ last month. This amused me very much.

Date: 2010-10-17 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrsalvia.livejournal.com
Yes, the film does treat women very poorly - just as most of the web 2.0 assholes do. It treats women as mostly invisible side characters, much in the way that this industry does. I found it very realistic.

Date: 2010-10-17 11:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-10-17 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twopiearr.livejournal.com
it treats them realistically to how the "titans" of the internet treated them, which is to say, poorly.

the internet as we know it was built, by and large, by people with aspberger's syndrome.

one of the reasons it was difficult for me to grok this for so long was that my experience of the web revolution was at macaddict, which was one of the few places whether this was not so. it is only upon reflection and swapping notes years after the fact that i learned that the gender-egalitarian nature of imagine media was the exception, not the norm.

Date: 2010-10-17 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkmoon.livejournal.com
It's nice working for Apple for that reason, also.

Date: 2010-10-17 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bittergourd.livejournal.com
It's no surprise that the film was very well directed.

It's David Fincher. I wouldn't expect less from him. Panic Room is my least favorite of his films and even that, I found watchable.

Date: 2010-10-17 12:42 pm (UTC)
witchchild: (Gear watch)
From: [personal profile] witchchild
I do remember a layout change happening in 2003, because the person I was seeing at the time explained how to change back to the older layout.

Date: 2010-10-17 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badger.livejournal.com
The scene in the film was December 2003, I believe.

Date: 2010-10-17 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrsalvia.livejournal.com
Nods. any idea when LJ made the change, though?

Date: 2010-10-17 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badger.livejournal.com
No, that's why I didn't make an observation about the date of the LJ change. :)

Date: 2010-10-17 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkmoon.livejournal.com
Hooray for the wayback machine!

http://web.archive.org/web/20031015055446/www.livejournal.com/

(15 oct 2003)

The change appears to have happened sometime in September that year; the 30 Aug snapshot has the old style while the 25 Sep has the new one. Of course, many of us refused to switch over for as long as possible, so for me LiveJournal certainly didn't look like that back then. ;)
Edited Date: 2010-10-17 11:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-10-17 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twopiearr.livejournal.com
i first got hooked up with LJ when I moved to LA, which would have been april of 02, and I was getting blue/white at that time, but anyone whose account predates that kept the orange candy look unless they opted in to blue and white (anna's is orange candy to this day). so that would be appropriate for 03 for anyone who didn't consciously opt into the older style, I would think, and it would be out of character for Zuckerberg as portrayed in that film to have cared that much about the interface of his LJ.

Date: 2010-10-17 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrsalvia.livejournal.com
admittedly, the reason i am not sure about this is that i fucking HATE blue and white as a color combination. they are two of my least favorite colors in general, and together... awful. i've kept the blue/orange/purple/white layout all these years.

Date: 2010-10-17 09:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-10-17 09:57 pm (UTC)
treecat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] treecat
I started LJ in early 2003 I think... too lazy to check. I think it was always blue & white for me, but I could be wrong... useless enough response?

maybe I will go see the movie.

Date: 2010-10-18 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tristissima.livejournal.com
I found it to be one of a very few recent movies to actually have hamartia/tragic flaw, a virtue in excess.

Or at least try for it.

Date: 2010-10-19 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lm.livejournal.com
I still use the old layout!
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